filename 2017-01-21 01:00:51
hello
filename 2017-01-21 01:01:10
can anyone suggest good bitcoin wallet for windows?
nkuttler 2017-01-21 01:02:44
filename: https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:03:19
bitcoin core is best,
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:03:31
but if dont have time to sync entire blockchain. Electrum is good
filename 2017-01-21 01:04:01
thanks i will try
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:18:40
In terms of using immutability of bitcoin blockchain for POE proof of existance
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:19:02
I've seen some use op_return, others simply spend to address which is hex encoded of the sha256
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:19:57
I have an idea to use the hash of the doc as the private key from which bitcoin address is created from,
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:20:42
to send a transaction through. the POE can later be proved by applying that hash to recreate this address
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:20:48
has this been done before?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:21:17
opentimestamps?
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:21:31
would prevent burning coins, and bloating blockchain with op_return
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:21:36
for poe purposes
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:21:40
what is opentimestamps?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:22:09
https://petertodd.org/2016/opentimestamps-announcement
piqure 2017-01-21 01:22:10
^^^ WARNING: any URL may lead directly or indirectly to COIN-STEALING MALWARE! ^^^
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:23:21
looks more complex
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:23:25
but will read in full
strk 2017-01-21 01:23:37
what's up with blocks closing within 6/7 minutes now ? were there a change in protocol or just a peak of miners ?
strk 2017-01-21 01:24:04
(or I understood wrong that the proto is supposed to auto-tune to make sure blocks are closed about every 10 minutes?)
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:24:15
its a poisson process
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:24:23
could be between 0 ~ infinite amount of time
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:24:28
on average yeah, but readjust not till every 2600 blocks
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:24:39
what is poisson process?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:24:56
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution
piqure 2017-01-21 01:24:57
^^^ WARNING: any URL may lead directly or indirectly to COIN-STEALING MALWARE! ^^^
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:26:49
hi. bitcoin newbie here. Can anyone tell me why sellers are afraid of scam? I mean the BTC is transfered after the money has been sent so what is the risk?
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:27:39
what system harrys_ ?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:27:51
chargebacks
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:28:06
the very evil bitcoin is trying to kill
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:28:16
cant chargeback with standard bitcoin transactions
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:28:23
after confirmation in block
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:28:31
I was looking on localbitcoins
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:28:42
harrys_: you meant fiat -> btc purchases yes?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:28:47
a seller selling BTC?
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:28:50
the sellers wanted so much proof of who you are and previous transactions etc
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:28:58
sounds sketchy
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:29:05
yes
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:29:15
yes, chargebacks is the main concern
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:29:26
why i dont do localbitcoin anymore
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:29:28
you pay with credit, bank transfer or wtv.
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:29:31
always afraid of counterfeit cash
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:29:45
or getting robbed
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:29:45
there's no stopping you to tell your bank, your card got stolen
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:29:49
chargeback initiated.
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:29:52
seller loses fiat
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:30:04
and BTC stays with you
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:30:05
i see
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:30:45
cash dealings are dangerous too
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:31:04
since the seller gets to organise the environment
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:31:12
i'm always very concerned when trading with cash
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:31:14
(cough) concealled carry
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:31:18
so the only way to go about it is through reputable services (i.e. coinbase) I guess
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:31:29
sad to say, yes.
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:31:34
or some other reputable exchange
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:31:40
and they are ripping us off
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:31:42
I would advise against coinbase
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:31:54
why is that cannon?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:32:05
i'd really like to see more innovation in this space
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:32:08
coinbase reports your purchases/sells to IRS automatically now.
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:32:20
using a form nomrally used as reported income
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:32:44
i've always wondered, is it a requirement to report and do KYC/AML apply when purchasing bitcoin?
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:32:44
even if it is not income, or if you are doing it for someone else
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:32:50
or that only kicks in when you sell bitcoins for Fiat?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:33:20
is it a regulatory requirement?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:33:24
for bitcoin purchases?
mryandao 2017-01-21 01:33:32
or just to process the sales of bitcoin.
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:33:51
ever since circle closed down, what do you guys recommend for quick simple bitcoin buys?
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:33:57
using debit card
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:35:05
I went through many sites trying to decide which one to use. they most had some pretty bad reviews and TONS of identification steps
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:35:17
this is how I ended up dealing with coinbase
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:35:24
yeah why I was unable to use gemini or bitwage
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:35:32
they are asking for too much info, info that I dont even have
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:35:36
are you from the US?
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:35:42
I am yes
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:35:50
unfourtanetly
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:35:56
I believe there are more services available for you
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:36:07
Im not anti-US, but our gov made life a PITA here due to too many regulations in financial
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:36:15
I went through a couple that required to be us citizen
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:36:46
like, proof of address WTF? I dont have any bills or anything in my name
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:37:03
yes
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:37:18
I even had to upload a bill as proof of address for one of them
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:37:31
I guess I could photoshop one lol
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:37:36
ended up deleting the account :p
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:37:49
how come you got no bills?
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:37:53
:p
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:38:13
I am more interested in that rather than bitcoins hahahah
harrys_ 2017-01-21 01:39:50
oh "not in your name".. thought you said no bills :p
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:42:18
Anyone ever try out bitsquare?
cannon-c 2017-01-21 01:42:28
AML/KYC not required ;)
